Entries from August 1, 2007 - September 1, 2007
A Bumbleberry Post
Cranberries
Last evening the dog and I went on a cranberry scouting expedition. What did we find? The berries aren’t quite ripe yet, but there is a bumper crop this year—big berries and plentiful—like I haven’t seen since 1987.
And yes, I remember the exact year, because several years later I still had bags of cranberries in the freezer labeled, “Cranberries, September 1987.” Oldest daughter and her friend were ten years old, and for a couple of weeks in early September they’d disappear into the bush together whenever it could be arranged, and waddle home a couple of hours later, side by side, carrying a 5-gallon bucket of berries between them. (That was back in the days when reasonable parents still let their kiddies wander the bush unsupervised all afternoon as long as they were home for supper.)
Watermelon
All the watermelon I bought this year was disappointingly bland and flavourless and not very juicy. Even the big watermelon fans in the fam didn’t like it much, and I ended up throwing some away. Do they even grow the slurpy, full-of-flavour, seeded melons like I grew up with anymore?
Peaches
I have been shamelessly admiring all the jars of canned peaches (and strawberry-rhubarb jam, too) lined up on a little table in the kitchen. What’s the point of slaving over the canner if you can’t admire your handiwork for a while before you store it away on a cool dark shelf in the basement?
I still plan to do a post on canning peaches, but it is taking longer than I expected to get it together. In case you are waiting for my instructions before canning peaches and your peaches are in danger of spoiling while you wait, let me recommend the book Putting Food By by Janet Greene. It is the very best resource there is on canning, preserving, freezing, drying, curing, smoking or cold storing food of all kinds—fruit, vegetable, or meat. If this book doesn’t have instructions for it, you don’t want to do it.
Answers to Quiz on the Trinity
Time to post the answers to Monday’s quiz on the Trinity. Here are a few definitions of the Trinity that may be helpful in explaining the correct answers to the quiz.
The doctrine of the Trinity is simply that there is one eternal being of God - indivisible, infinite. This one being of God is shared by three co-equal, co-eternal persons, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit.
The source for this definition is James White of Alpha and Omega Ministries. (The whole of the linked article may be helpful to you as well.)
Wayne Grudem gives three statements that summarize the Biblical teaching on the Trinity in his Systematic Theology.
And for good measure, John Frame, in Salvation Belongs to the Lord, gives us five summary assertions:
- God is three persons
- Each person is fully God.
- There is one God.1
(1) God is one; (2) God is three; (3) the three persons are each fully God; (4) each of the persons is distinct from the others; and (5) the three persons are eternally related as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.2
Longer than these summary statements, but extremely important, is the historical Athanasian creed. Quoting from the section that pertains to the Trinity:
- Now the catholic faith is that we worship
- One God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity,
- neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the substance.
- For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Spirit.
- But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, is One, the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal.
- Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit;
- the Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated;
- the father infinite, the Son infinite, and the Holy Spirit infinite;
- the Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal.
- And yet not three eternals but one eternal,
- as also not three infinites, nor three uncreated, but one uncreated, and one infinite.
- So, likewise, the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty;
- and yet not three almighties but one almighty.
- So the Father is God, the Son God, and the Holy Spirit God;
- and yet not three Gods but one God.
- So the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord;
- and yet not three Lords but one Lord.
- For like as we are compelled by Christian truth to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be both God and Lord;
- so are we forbidden by the catholic religion to say, there be three Gods or three Lords.
- The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten.
- The Son is of the Father alone, not made nor created but begotten.
- The Holy Spirit is of the Father and the Son, not made nor created nor begotten but proceeding.
- So there is one Father not three Fathers, one Son not three Sons, and one Holy Spirit not three Holy Spirits.
- And in this Trinity there is nothing before or after, nothing greater or less,
- but the whole three Persons are coeternal together and coequal.
- So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Trinity in Unity and the Unity in Trinity is to be worshipped.
- He therefore who wills to be in a state of salvation, let him think thus of the Trinity.3
Now onto the answers, although I’m betting that if you read through those statements quoted above, you already know most of the answers.
Remember, the point was to determine which statements are untrue according to the Biblical and historical doctrine of the Trinity. I’ve given short defenses of some of the answers, but doing it for every one seemed unnecessary and repetitive. If you want to know the reasoning behind any of the undefended answers, just ask.
- There is one God. True.
- God is one person. False. See, for instance, statement 4 in the Athanasian creed.
- God is one being. True. See James White’s definition of the Trinity.
- There are three persons in the Godhead. True. Statement 4, Athanasian creed.
- The three persons in the Godhead are related eternally as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. True. Statement 5, John Frame’s five assertions.
- Each of the three persons of the Godhead is one-third of God. False. Each person is fully God; the Trinity is indivisible.
- The Father is fully God. True.
- The Father has the whole fullness of God’s being in himself. True.
- The Father is eternal. True.
- The Father is not the Son. True. The persons are distinct and not confounded.
- The Father is not the Holy Spirit. True.
- The Son is fully God. True.
- The Son has the whole fullness if God’s being in himself. True.
- The Son came into being at the time of the incarnation. False. The Son is eternal and uncreated according to statements 7 and 9 of the Athanasian Creed. And of course, we have the scriptural statements that say that Christ was the agent of the creation of everything as proof that he existed eternally. He is not a created being, but the Creator.
- The Son was brought into being in eternity past. False, see directly above. That Christ was created by the Father before the rest of creation is one of the doctrines of Arianism, a heresy denounced by both the Council of Nicea and the Council of Constantanople, but which nonetheless still exists today, for instance, in the teaching of the Jehovah’s witnesses.
- The Son is eternal. True.
- The Son is not the Father. True.
- The Son is not the Holy Spirit. True.
- The Holy Spirit is fully God. True.
- The Holy Spirit has the whole fullness of God’s being in himself. True.
- The Holy Spirit is eternal. True.
- The Holy Spirit is not the Father. True.
- The Holy Spirit is not the Son. True.
- The persons of the Trinity are distinct. True.
- In their nature, the Son and the Holy Spirit are co-equal and co-eternal with the Father. True. See especially statement 26 of the Athansian Creed, although other statements pertain as well.
- The Son and the Spirit are subordinate to the Father in their essence or nature. False. In essence and nature they are all equal—equal majesty and glory; all three uncreated, eternal, infinite, etc. This false statement is one affirming a form of subordinationism, a heresy rejected by the early church.
- The Trinity is unique. True.
- There is both unity and diversity in the being of God. True.
- The persons of the Trinity have distinct primary roles. True. This is hinted at in statements 20-23 of the Athanasian Creed and supported in scripture. Although all three persons are involved in all of God’s work, there are distinctions in their focus. We might summarize their roles like this: the Father plans, the Son accomplishes, the Spirit applies.
- The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are simply different names for the one person of God showing himself to us in three distinct roles. False. Since the Trinity consist of three persons (not one) who exist co-eternally, God cannot be just one person manifesting himself in different roles. Melanie gives a scriptural argument that this statement is false in the comments of the quiz. This false statement is a modalistic one, and modalism (or Sabellianism) is a heresy that has always been condemned within Christianity, but one that also continues to exist. The United Pentecostal Church (Jesus-onlyism), for example, affirms a form of modalism.
- A right understanding of the Trinity is vital to right worship of God. True. Right worship is worship done for right reasons. An accurate view of God as Trinity is the foundation upon which we can worship each of the three persons in the Godhead. We know that only God himself is to be worshipped, right? So since the Son is fully God, co-equal and co-eternal with the Father, we have justification for worshipping him; but if he were not fully God, and a created being subordinate to the Father, we would not have justification for worshipping him.
- A right understanding of the Trinity is vital to a right understanding of redemption. True. For one thing, in order for the Father to pour out his wrath on his Son and for the Father to accept Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf, the persons must be distinct. That the Son is infinite God also explains how his death can infinitely valuable and thus able to pay the just penalty of eternity in hell for all those he redeems.
- Any analogy used to explain the Trinity will not represent it completely accurately. True, as we ought to expect, since the Trinity is unique. Nothing else is like it, so there is no good analogy for it. Most analogies used to explain the Trinity do a better job explaining a heretical view of God than the orthodox Trinitarian one. And do we really need analogies, anyway? God is incomprehensible; the Trinity is incomprehensible. While there are many true things we can know about it, I’d think we should be satisfied to live with a great deal of mystery in regards to it. In fact, one could argue that the errors in regards to God in Trinity have come from attempts to make the incomprehensible into something simpler to understand.
- The doctrine of the Trinity cannot be derived from the Biblical text. False. The word “Trinity” is not in scripture, but the doctrine of the trinity comes directly from all the statements made about God and the persons of the Godhead in scripture.
Can true believers be infallibly assured that they are in the estate of grace
…and that they shall persevere therein unto salvation?
Such as truly believe in Christ, and endeavor to walk in all good conscience before him,[1] may, without extraordinary revelation, by faith grounded upon the truth of God’s promises, and by the Spirit enabling them to discern in themselves those graces to which the promises of life are made,[2] and bearing witness with their spirits that they are the children of God,[3] be infallibly assured that they are in the estate of grace, and shall persevere therein unto salvation.[4]
Quiz on the Biblical and Historical Doctrine of the Trinity
I’m in the quiz making business again and this one’s on the Trinity. The directions are simple: Indicate which of the following statements are not true according to the Biblical and historical doctrine of the Trinity.
- There is one God.
- God is one person.
- God is one being.
- There are three persons in the Godhead.
- The three persons in the Godhead are related eternally as Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
- Each of the three persons of the Godhead is one-third of God.
- The Father is fully God.
- The Father has the whole fullness of God’s being in himself.
- The Father is eternal.
- The Father is not the Son.
- The Father is not the Holy Spirit.
- The Son is fully God.
- The Son has the whole fullness if God’s being in himself.
- The Son came into being at the time of the incarnation.
- The Son was brought into being in eternity past.
- The Son is eternal.
- The Son is not the Father.
- The Son is not the Holy Spirit.
- The Holy Spirit is fully God.
- The Holy Spirit has the whole fullness of God’s being in himself.
- The Holy Spirit is eternal.
- The Holy Spirit is not the Father.
- The Holy Spirit is not the Son.
- The persons of the Trinity are distinct.
- In their nature, the Son and the Holy Spirit are co-equal and co-eternal with the Father.
- The Son and the Spirit are subordinate to the Father in their essence or nature.
- The Trinity is unique.
- There is both unity and diversity in the being of God.
- The persons of the Trinity have distinct primary roles.
- The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are simply different names for the one person of God showing himself to us in three distinct roles.
- A right understanding of the Trinity is vital to right worship of God.
- A right understanding of the Trinity is vital to a right understanding of redemption.
- Any analogy used to explain the Trinity will not represent it completely accurately.
- The doctrine of the Trinity cannot be derived from the Biblical text.
Look for the answers to be posted on Wednesday or thereabout.
Like theology quizzes? Here are some that were posted previously:
Sunday's Hymn: Reader's Choice
This hymn is a favorite of Leslie from Lux Venit. We don’t know for sure who wrote this one, but it was found in John Rippon’s A Selection of Hymns from the Best Authors.
How firm a foundation, ye saints of the Lord,
Is laid for your faith in His excellent Word!
What more can He say than to you He hath said,
You, who unto Jesus for refuge have fled?
In every condition, in sickness, in health;
In poverty’s vale, or abounding in wealth;
At home and abroad, on the land, on the sea,
As thy days may demand, shall thy strength ever be.
Fear not, I am with thee, O be not dismayed,
For I am thy God and will still give thee aid;
I’ll strengthen and help thee, and cause thee to stand
Upheld by My righteous, omnipotent hand.
When through the deep waters I call thee to go,
The rivers of woe shall not thee overflow;
For I will be with thee, thy troubles to bless,
And sanctify to thee thy deepest distress.
When through fiery trials thy pathways shall lie,
My grace, all sufficient, shall be thy supply;
The flame shall not hurt thee; I only design
Thy dross to consume, and thy gold to refine.
Even down to old age all My people shall prove
My sovereign, eternal, unchangeable love;
And when hoary hairs shall their temples adorn,
Like lambs they shall still in My bosom be borne.
The soul that on Jesus has leaned for repose,
I will not, I will not desert to its foes;
That soul, though all hell should endeavor to shake,
I’ll never, no never, no never forsake.
(Listen.)
Other hymns, worship songs, etc. posted today:
- My Shepherd is the Living Lord at Above the Clouds
- I Am a Poor Wayfaring Stranger at joythruChrist
- The Collect for the Twelfth Sunday After Trinity at Magic Statistics
- Oh, Wonderful Word! at The Happy Wonderer
- Alas, and Did My Saviour Bleed at Thoughts from the Teahouse
- Lord’s Day 34, 2007 at The Thirsty Theologian
- Hallelujah! What a Savior at Seasonings of the Heart
- Glorious Things of Thee are Spoken at Jam and Books
- He Lives at IMD 2.0
Mr. Broccoli Head
….or ask and you shall receive.
All the vegies (and the raspberry eyes) were picked yesterday from the garden. Would you like to play along, too? See the details here.
More food news: I’ve been canning peaches and I’ve taken photos so that I can post a peach canning tutorial next week.
Don't Send Me Email
My box is all filled up, and the mail server won’t let me in to empty it. I spent a big chunk of time yesterday trying to fix the problem, but I was unsuccessful.
If you emailed me in the last few days, there’s a good chance I didn’t get it. When the problem’s solved, I’ll let you know, okay?
Yippee! My mailbox is cleaned out now, so go ahead, send me stuff.
May not true believers, by reason of their imperfections...
…and the many temptations and sins they are overtaken with, fall away from the state of grace?
True believers, by reason of the unchangeable love of God,[1] and his decree and covenant to give them perseverance,[2] their inseparable union with Christ,[3] his continual intercession for them,[4] and the Spirit and seed of God abiding in them,[5] can neither totally nor finally fall away from the state of grace,[6] but are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation.[7]
Recommended for Listening
I’ve listened to many mp3 lectures, sermons, or Sunday school lessons over the past few months. Here are a few that I think are particularly interesting, informative, and valuable.
D. A. Carson (I’ve included links to my notes posted on each of these, too.)
- The Ironies of the Cross and notes.
- On Being Prepared for Suffering and Evil, Part 1 and Part 2, and notes on Part 1 and Part 2.
- What is the Gospel? and notes.
- The Canon of Scripture: Old Testament, New Testament
- The Inerrancy of Scripture: Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3
John Piper on Romans 9 (From Desiring God Radio)
- Freedom/Justice of God in Unconditional Election, Part 1, Part 2
- The Fame of His Name and the Freedom of Mercy, Part 1, Part 2
- The Hardening of Pharoah and the Hope of the World, Part 1, Part 2
- How God Makes Known the Riches of His Glory to the Vessels of Mercy, Part 1, Part 2
Phil Johnson
- A Survey of Heresies: Six lectures on five historical (yet recurring) heresies.
Discovery Day and Other Tidbits

- This is a long weekend in the Yukon and today is a holiday—Discovery Day. I’ve taken advantage of the lovely late summer weather to do things outdoors, including prepping and painting yet another deck. And so the spotty blogging.
- I have buckets of fresh broccoli from the garden, but no heads on the cauliflower yet. The heads on the cabbage are still quite small, too. Apparently cauliflower and cabbage need more sun than broccoli. I would post photos, but all the digital cameras in the house are being used elsewhere during this long weekend.
- Oldest daughter ordered a new iPod, and it arrived last Thursday. According to the Purolator delivery man, her parcel came here along with hundreds of iPods intended for destinations all across Canada, but directed here by the 96W code for Whitehorse printed on them. Hers, it seems, was the only one that really belonged here.





