Entries from May 1, 2008 - June 1, 2008
May's Recipe Round Up at Whatever Things...
Theological Term of the Week
ordo salutis
- From Romans 8:29-30:
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
- From John Frame’s Salvation Belongs to the Lord, page 183:
We should be flexible as to what goes into the ordo and what does not. The Bible itself doesn’t use the phrase ordo salutis… And Scripture does not include anywhere a list of all the events theologians typically include under that label. Myself, I think that the ordo is mainly a pedagogical device. As you go through the various items on the list, there is no consistent principle of ordering. Some items precede other items because the first comes earlier in time, the other later. That is the case with effectual calling and glorification. Other items on the list precede others because one is a cause, the other an effect, as with regeneration and faith. Still others come before others not because of temporal priority or causal priority but because of what theologians call instrumental priority, as in the relation of faith to justification. And still other pairs of events are simply concurrent or simultaneous blessings, like justification and adoption. So the order means different things: sometimes cause and effect, sometimes earlier and later, sometimes instrument and object, sometimes mere concurrence. Nevertheless, the order does bring out important relationships between these events, relationships that the Bible does set forth.
- From Monergism.com, Ordo Salutis:
Historically in the Church there has been disagreement about the order of salvation, especially between those in the Reformed and Arminian camps. The following two perspectives of God’s order in carrying out His redemptive work reveals the stark contrast between these two main historic views. Keep in mind that both viewpoints are based on the redemptive work which Christ accomplished for His people in history:
In the Reformed camp, the ordo salutis is 1) election, 2) predestination, 3) gospel call 4) inward call 5) regeneration, 6) conversion (faith & repentance), 7) justification, 8) sanctification, and 9) glorification. (Rom 8:29-30)
In the Arminian camp, the ordo salutis is 1) outward call 2) faith/election, 3) repentance, 4) regeneration, 5) justification, 6) perseverance, 7) glorification.
Notice the crucial difference in the orders of regeneration and faith. While the Reformed position believes spiritual life is a prerequisite for the existence of the other aspects of salvation, the Arminians believe that fallen, natural man retains the moral capacity to receive or reject the gospel of his own power.
- Impress your friends by pronouncing this Latin theological term correctly instead of always defaulting to “order of salvation.”
- Some examples of orders of salvation at my old blog.
- Theopedia: Ordo Salutis
- From Third Millenium, a helpful answer to the question: “Could you please provide a listing and explanation of how the major denominations view the order of salvation?”
- From 9Marks: God Helps Those Who Help Themselves? (The title doesn’t sound like it has anything to do with the ordo salutis, but it does.)
Beer Batter Deep Fried Halibut
This recipe is posted for the Recipes Around The World Recipe Round Up at Whatever Things… It’s one of our favorite ways to serve and eat the halibut we catch, when and if we catch it.
- 2 - 2 1/2 lb. halibut fillets
- 1 c. flour
- 1/2 tsp. paprika
- 1/4 tsp. salt
- 1/8 tsp. pepper
- 3/4 c. beer
- Oil for deep frying
- Lemon wedges and tartar sauce.
- Heat the oil in a deep fat fryer to 375 degrees.
- Cut fillets in to 2 inch squares.
- Make a batter by mixing dry ingredients and slowly stirring in the beer. Beat until smooth.
- Dip each piece of fish into batter. Drain.
- Deep fry a few pieces at a time until golden brown.
- Drain and and place on paper towel lined serving platter.
- Serve with salt and lemon wedges or tarter sauce.
Makes 4-6 servings.
Wild cranberries are another local ingredient that I often cook with. Here are two previously posted recipes using cranberries.
Cherry Veggie Dip
This recipe is from Jane, and is posted for this month’s Recipes Around The World Recipe Round Up at Whatever Things…
I live in the middle of Michigan’s cherry country so here’s a recipe for Cherry Veggie Dip. I made it recently for a MOPS meeting. It was yummy!
1 cup dried tart cherries, chopped (I cut them in half with scissors)
1/2 cup crumbled blue cheese
1/2 cup chopped walnuts
1 cup sour cream
1/4 cup mayonnaiseCombine cherries, blue cheese and walnuts in a medium bowl. Stir in sour cream and mayonnaise; mix well. Chill about 1 hour (or more) to blend flavors. Serve with veggies or with crackers.
Serves 24.
Down for the Count

If my experience with this illness is like everyone else’s in the family, I’ll probably be back to blogging in a couple of days. See you then.
Saturday's Old Photo

As promised, here’s the photo of my Grandpa Vogt dressed up for Pioneer Days. I think he grew the goatee just for this occasion. I have this hung on my dining room wall, along with the photo from last week. This picture, like the previous one, was probably shot in the sixties.
Unfortunately, when the kids were little, one of them touched this photo with a very dirty finger and that bit of our family history is there for you to see, too.
My Desktop Photo 6: Finally, Spring in Real Life

Photo by Andrew Stark
Gas Up: May 8
No need to take a new photo for me, because gas costs exactly the same this week as last—$135.9/litre or $5.14/gallon.
Other gas price reports
Rey gives us a breakdown of the gas prices he encountered last weekend in New York City, New Jersey and Pennsylvania:
- PA (where I live) $3.69 a gallon
- NJ (Family Stop A) $3.47 a gallon
- NJ (Refuel before entering NYC) $3.58 a gallon
- NYC (Family Stop B: NYC and where I refused to refuel) $3.89 a gallon
- NJ (Refuel before leaving NJ) $3.49 a gallon
- Candy is paying $3.75/gallon and she blames the Californians.
- See what Dorothy is paying this week in Crystal Lake, IL.
From threegirldad, who lives somewhere in the world in Kansas.
Well, prices here shot up almost 20 cents a couple of days ago, so it’s now between $3.50 and $3.55. And to think that I can remember my dad pulling into a full-service station, and paying 19 or 20 cents a gallon for someone else to pump the gas — as well as clean the windshield and check the oil. Wow…
I remember 19¢ gas, too. And penny candy.
- Elaine has posted a photo of the gas prices in her little corner of Northern Ireland. Remember, the price listed is in £, not $. (And it’s per litre, not gallon.)
- threegirldad came back to report that gas in his neck of the plains (Kansas) has gone up another 10¢ since Thursday, so now it’s $3.65 per gallon.
- Gas at my little neighbourhood station went up since Thursday, too, by two cents a litre. That means there’ll be a new photo this coming week.
Romans 8:18-39: General Procedure
Here’s the general procedure I’ll be using for doing an interpretive paraphrase of this passage.
- Step 1 is to place the passage in context; first, within the book of Romans, and then within the particular section of text surrounding it.
- Step 2 is to divide the passage in paragraphs.
- Step 3 is to copy the first verse from the four translations I’m using comparing them and using that comparison to help me decide which words and phrases might be key to understanding the meaning of the verse.
- Step 4 is to underline the key words and phrases in the verse. The general guideline I use is to underline all the nouns and verbs and any connecting words for which I see the possibility of different meanings reflected in the translations I’ve used.
- Step 5 is to consider the meaning each underlined word or phrase, using a comparison of the different translations, information on the meaning of the word gathered using my Strong’s concordance, and finally (and optionally), what I glean from the commentary.
- Step 6 is to write a paraphrase of this verse from what I’ve learned.
Hitchin' the Wagon

for a couple of days while I regroup.
Mostly I’ll be doing spring yard work and spring cleaning and spring sewing. I’ll be back on Friday with this week’s Gas Up post, and should it rain on my parade, I may get one of the Romans 8 posts up soon, too.





